1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,640 tonight on fact or faked paranormal files 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:14,680 oh my gosh that's creepy there were 26 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,880 murders in the theater and there's a 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,880 ghost for each one listen to this whoa 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,280 that's creepy we're moving into place 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,240 are you ready copy that guys we are in 7 00:00:25,240 --> 00:00:28,800 position begin motion if you care to 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,520 make any noise to move anything there's 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,840 a flying saucer getting a series of 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,520 lights right there so you see what I'm 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,600 seeing 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,080 what the heck is happening 13 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:11,480 well why don't we start off with you 14 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,200 Devon okay guys I brought you a video 15 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,680 from my home state Arizona in 2008 an 16 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,120 amateur paranormal team was 17 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,800 investigating the birdcage theater an 18 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,240 old tombstone this place is famous for 19 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,880 hauntings yeah they captured a ghostly 20 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,000 apparition on the wall check this footage 21 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,200 out 22 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,400 you have an amateur paranormal team and 23 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,560 they're there they're all sitting at the 24 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,480 table and this kid is looking on the 25 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:37,960 wall and they flash a flashlight and 26 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:40,480 this is what they see 27 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,320 whoa did you see it yeah what is that 28 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:46,920 so they're saying that it's not like a 29 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,120 mannequin or something in the wall 30 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,960 there's nothing on the wall it almost 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,240 looks like a person in a coffin you can 32 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,960 see the outline and everything in the 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,040 1880s it was the hangout for people like 34 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,080 white herb duck holiday there were all 35 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,880 kinds of gunfights going on here at 36 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,080 reportedly there were 26 murders in the 37 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,080 theater and there's a ghost for each one 38 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,440 at the theater that's a lot of history 39 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,440 yeah 40 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,360 well I think considering the history and 41 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,840 the fact that there's a lot of paranormal 42 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,280 activity there I think it's worth 43 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,400 investigating iconic cowboys 26 deaths 44 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,080 26 hauntings why wouldn't we do it I 45 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,520 agree but let's see what else we have in 46 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,440 the pipeline first okay guys well I've 47 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,120 brought us a photograph that came from 48 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,080 Burwick Louisiana a hunter had a trail 49 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,480 camera on her property and she was 50 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,960 tracking the movement of deer she found 51 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,720 a photograph of what many people call a 52 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:42,200 zombie take a look at it yeah whoa oh 53 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,200 my gosh that's creepy look how those eyes 54 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,480 are just so piercing yeah I can see why 55 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,000 they're calling it a zombie very human 56 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,280 ordered I mean it's got legs and arms and 57 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,400 a really creepy mountain well when you 58 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,480 zoom into the image you can see the 59 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,240 pixelation of a digital overlay now to 60 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,280 me that means that the picture has been 61 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,920 modified not convinced I agree with 62 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:10,080 Lanisha I think this is Photoshop we're 63 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,560 not going to know until we see the 64 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,720 equipment look at the original photo and 65 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,680 say okay this couldn't have been hoaxed 66 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:16,640 or you know what there was an 67 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:18,080 opportunity for someone to Photoshop 68 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,360 this right well I think it's an eerie 69 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,840 photo I'm still really leaning towards 70 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,800 the fact that this was photoshopped but 71 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,400 let's revisit it if we find out more 72 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,000 information okay okay who's next I have 73 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,640 a great case that I think totally 74 00:03:31,640 --> 00:03:33,400 warranted our attention and it happened 75 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,400 right here in Southern California it was 76 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,480 October 2006 and Russell McKenzie was 77 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,120 driving home on the 134 freeway when he 78 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,960 noticed something very strange in the 79 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,200 night sky take a look at this video 80 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,400 ooh so it's on the upper left top of the 81 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:57,720 screen still he sees the light look at 82 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,920 it go 83 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:04,400 that's weird was going are you kidding me 84 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,520 after he realized what he had recorded 85 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,160 the video he posted it online then he 86 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,640 started getting replies from people that 87 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,320 said they had seen the same UFO the very 88 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,560 night that he did well I like the fact 89 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,600 that many people saw it and I'm hard 90 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:18,880 pressed to believe that that was a 91 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,080 man-made vehicle because you saw how 92 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,640 fast it sped off I don't see any proof 93 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,040 that it's man-made you guys I can 94 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,960 already think of so many experiments we 95 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,120 could create surrounding this video I 96 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,160 like it a lot but it'd be a challenge 97 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,320 because I mean this is a heavily 98 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,320 populated area that's true fact that 99 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:37,680 we're all debating it and we have these 100 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,520 ideas of what we could do with it I 101 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,440 think it's a great contender agreed 102 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,600 well let me tell you what I've got for 103 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,280 you now it was February 2010 and will 104 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:48,680 oxlade he's a Londoner was vacationing in 105 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,160 the French Alps 106 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,000 now he comes upon this really big 107 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,920 triangle that's in the snow it's a 108 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,920 design that fits into the category of 109 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:01,880 snow circles they're like crop circles 110 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,880 many people think you know that there's 111 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,760 some type of communication with extra 112 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,120 terrestrials so take a look at this 113 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,840 wow whoa look at the size of that 114 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:15,040 he's looking how many triangles are 115 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,200 inside of that show you people have 116 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,040 taken a look at this have found out 117 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,760 that this is what's called a fractal 118 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,000 now fractal is a geometric shape where 119 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,320 you can cut it into equilateral parts 120 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,080 every time you cut it it's a carbon 121 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,440 copy of the larger geometric shape 122 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,120 right now this type of fractal is known 123 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,600 as a Serpinski triangle 124 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,680 researchers believe that if aliens 125 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,240 were going to contact us they would do 126 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,600 it through the universal language of 127 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,880 mathematics make sense it looks like 128 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,040 there's a road up there off to the side 129 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,920 what if this was man-made people could 130 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,600 have just went down there came off the 131 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,120 road made the design covered up their 132 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,600 tracks and walked back off the road 133 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,920 with the road so close and what looks 134 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,960 like tracks walking through it I think 135 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,760 we need a cleaner example before we 136 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,440 would pursue the snow circle phenomena 137 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,200 looks like for a better one but I would 138 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,480 like to do a crop circle or snow circle 139 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,560 design yeah I would like to as well 140 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,400 let's vote on it as a photographer I'm 141 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,080 really drawn to the birdcage case I 142 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,640 would love to dig deeper into that 143 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,600 coffin image tombstone for me you guys 144 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,560 slam dunk tombstone is awesome I say 145 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,720 freeway flyer I mean think about it we 146 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,960 finally have a UFO with actual witnesses 147 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,040 that are documented in a metropolitan 148 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:29,880 area it's great footage on top of that 149 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,640 we can do some big experiments try to 150 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,280 figure out what that is yeah I'm with 151 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:35,040 you Austin I'd like to find out what 152 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,040 Russell saw that night with the freeway 153 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,760 flyer case being just a couple of miles 154 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,960 from here it's just too inviting I don't 155 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,400 want to pass that one up because you 156 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,440 brought us the freeway flyer Bill why 157 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,840 don't you take Austin and Gael and I 158 00:06:48,840 --> 00:06:50,600 will go with Lanisha and Devin will 159 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,720 saddle up and go to tombstone yeah okay 160 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,040 alright let's get started 161 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:13,080 Tombstone Arizona home of the notorious 162 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,960 shooter at the okay corral 2008 in the 163 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,720 birdcage theater some people capture on 164 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,680 video what appears to be the figure of 165 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:29,960 a man in a coffin I did some research and 166 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,480 the birdcage theater was opened on 167 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,120 December 25th 1881 it was known as a 168 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,920 rowdy den of sin supposedly you can 169 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,680 even hear the sounds of laughing and 170 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,640 yelling and music at night almost as if 171 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,200 the theater still alive with the old 172 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:46,400 west 173 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,600 there it is right there guys perfect 174 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,760 hey how you doing Ben Hansen nice to meet 175 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,360 you doing Bill what are some of the most 176 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:03,920 famous murders that took place here 177 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,040 they're all documented one of the most 178 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,560 common ones is when gold dollar kills 179 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,120 margarita wow those are cool names 180 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,360 birdcage is known for its cribs upstairs 181 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,280 these were where the ladies plied their 182 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,320 trade their men customers from $25 a 183 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:20,800 night upstairs 184 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,280 well I love it can we get started give us 185 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,320 a tour yeah take us around yeah this is 186 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,440 the original bar is that a bullhole 187 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,600 right yeah that's a 45 and the slug 188 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,880 still remains in there today 189 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,280 it's actually bigger than it looks 190 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,960 outside this is the casino floor out of 191 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,800 the 106 saloons that were on Allen 192 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,400 Street the birdcage was the elite of 193 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,360 the Red Light District 194 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:47,920 because you're here pretty much every 195 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,400 day you experience anything yeah 196 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,680 stale cigar smoke boots walking when 197 00:08:53,680 --> 00:08:55,600 you don't turn around there's nobody 198 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,600 there 199 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,960 one of the most interesting things about 200 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,120 this crib right here in the mirror 201 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,240 every once in a while you get a 202 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,080 photograph of a lady's face you have to 203 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,480 take up to 11 before she'll start 204 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,840 appearing so bill why is this place so 205 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,600 haunted the people that lost their 206 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,000 lives here the fun that they had here I 207 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,760 think that there were people here that 208 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,880 just you know did not want to leave 209 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,880 we're about to meet with Dan Ackley he 210 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,640 shot the footage in 2008 he's going to 211 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,240 show us exactly where in the theater he 212 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,880 was and tells what happened that night 213 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:41,920 Dan I'm Ben so tell us about the video 214 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,280 you shot describe us the layout I can 215 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,400 show you the tripod was right here the 216 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,120 angle would be directly at the top of 217 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,600 the stairs 218 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,000 the investigators at this end of the 219 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,560 table towards the hers notice something 220 00:09:59,560 --> 00:10:02,280 in the dark moving over the stairs they 221 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,440 see movement and one of the 222 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,880 investigators asked for somebody to take 223 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,440 a flashlight and shine it up there 224 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,120 because they when you listen to the 225 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,200 audio it's like it's still there somebody 226 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,280 get a flashlight on it 227 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,800 what do you think it is I have no idea 228 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,360 it to me it looks like someone in a 229 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,520 coffin so the flashlight is coming from 230 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,040 that direction correct and the person in 231 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,840 frame is just sitting there right and 232 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,760 when the flashlight goes across he looks 233 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,000 up okay did you ever try to debunk this 234 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,280 yourself and investigate I did and 235 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:38,800 would you come up with I couldn't 236 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,160 recreate it well Dan thanks for 237 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,760 meeting us here we're going to take a 238 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,680 look at your camera your setup try some 239 00:10:44,680 --> 00:10:46,480 things see we can find explanation I 240 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,560 wish you a lot take care so let's get 241 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:52,840 started with our experiments 242 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,640 you guys looking at the original video 243 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,560 the apparition looks a lot like a man 244 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:03,360 inside of a coffin this could be a case 245 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:04,760 of pareidolia effect that's where the 246 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,400 mind tries to make sense of ambiguous 247 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,720 objects and shapes and sounds tries to 248 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,640 assign them something familiar we do 249 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:12,880 this all the time when we recognize a 250 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,800 face in the clouds and psychologists 251 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,560 use this when they do ink block tests 252 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:20,240 we did see a lot of different objects 253 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,040 on the table so what we might be looking 254 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,320 at is a prism effect maybe a silhouette 255 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,720 we're going to experiment with some 256 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,800 things on the table to try and project 257 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,480 some type of image up on the wall the 258 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,000 spirit of tombstone we have a lantern 259 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:38,320 nice we have an apothecary bottle cool 260 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:43,280 and then I don't know what this is but 261 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,560 it'll bend light these objects were on 262 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:48,840 the table and the flashlight passed in 263 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,800 front of it and possibly created a 264 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,040 silhouette on the wall let's try to get 265 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,000 the light to go through them and get a 266 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,440 prism or some type of silhouette effect 267 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,680 on the law it is possible sure let's 268 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,920 kill lights let's go green all right 269 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,800 all right lanisha you ready yep I'm all 270 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,760 framed up Devon yep okay let's start 271 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,240 with this hair tonic bottle here comes 272 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:22,160 the light in three two one 273 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:33,520 we're about to see if we can recreate 274 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,440 the ghost like image captured on dance 275 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,600 footage what we might be looking at is 276 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,760 a prism effect maybe a silhouette 277 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:41,920 we're going to experiment with some 278 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,000 things on the table to try and project 279 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,720 some type of image up on the wall 280 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,400 okay let's start with this hair tonic 281 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,920 bottle here comes the light in three 282 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:57,360 two one 283 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,680 okay we're gonna try our mystery root 284 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:06,320 bottle last one that we have left this 285 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:13,560 is our lantern okay how about look from 286 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:14,720 where I was sitting it looked like it 287 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,400 had some good form but really concerned 288 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,720 with how the camera sees it so I don't 289 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,240 know all right we'll take a look at the 290 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,680 side-by-side let's do lights up 291 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,040 all right okay this is our hair tonic 292 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,160 bottle we're not getting enough detail 293 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,800 you have shouldery kind of corners but 294 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,200 you still can see through it and you 295 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,800 don't have shadowy lines in the middle 296 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,440 now this is the mysterious root in the 297 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:46,480 in the liquid boom right there I was 298 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,120 hoping that the cap would create kind of 299 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,080 like a head shape but even that was kind 300 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,320 of dark here's our lantern all right 301 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:57,400 wow the shadows we're creating here are 302 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,040 much darker than the original video 303 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,240 maybe you should take a look at the 304 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,160 possibility this could be a hoax Dan came 305 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,640 back and tried to debunk this himself 306 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,240 and couldn't figure out what it was so 307 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,480 maybe he was hoaxed we're gonna need to 308 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,560 do something that changes things up 309 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:14,400 maybe we change the flashlight out for 310 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,360 a different kind of bulb like a black 311 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,400 light it's possible maybe there is some 312 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,360 type of substance it was on the wall and 313 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,320 it only reflects when the black light 314 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,840 sweeps by it why don't we try black 315 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,200 light paint it's clear you can't see it 316 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,640 until you shine the light on it maybe 317 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,880 that's exactly what it was okay we'll 318 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,920 put up our own plexi to protect museum 319 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,520 but we'll put it right in place all 320 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,680 right perfect we need to make sure that 321 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,520 the image on the plexi is exactly what 322 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,240 we saw in the video for this hoax to 323 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,280 work so our image is going to be in this 324 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,040 big circle here the head is going to be 325 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,920 right here and the suspenders I think 326 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,200 they look like suspenders or the hair 327 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,040 like you say Ben's gonna be here when 328 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,560 we put it up there in the black light 329 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,960 paint it'll glow the white right there 330 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,160 see how clear that is yeah if the 331 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,680 investigators are here they wouldn't see 332 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:07,600 this nice work Devin right up here on 333 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,720 this ledge it looks good I can't even 334 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,120 tell the difference between the two 335 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,480 layers there all right let's run this 336 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:14,040 test 337 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,920 investigator sir take your chair we're 338 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,040 ready I am framed up in okay let's kill 339 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,400 lights okay now here comes the black 340 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:30,880 light in three two one did you see 341 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,880 anything I'm just seeing the light all 342 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:34,960 right let's just check out a side by 343 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,760 side of it ready let's check it out 344 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:42,360 you see the shape the face even still 345 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,120 you the image doesn't pop out I was 346 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,360 actually really surprised that the UV 347 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,800 light even showed up this is really 348 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,240 creative but it's not it you know you 349 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:53,680 guys I want to try something let me take 350 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,840 down the plexi and let me show you 351 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,320 something I've been staring at this 352 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,640 image you know I painted it I'm looking 353 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,760 at it over and over and I'm looking at 354 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,680 the vantage point what if we were on to 355 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,600 something with all of those items on the 356 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,120 table all right what if it's just 357 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,240 haha wow let's kill the lights let's run 358 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,880 it let's do it I want to see this you 359 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,360 actually stay in that place this time 360 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,400 okay you get to your vantage point I'll 361 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,440 play the part of the investigator and 362 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,880 let's run it okay we're all set up and 363 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,320 videos playing back and cue the light 364 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:35,160 three two one 365 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,440 Devon wow that's amazing the shadow has 366 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,800 ellipses it's it's kind of turning to a 367 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,880 giant oval which looks like a coffin 368 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,080 let's see this side by side yeah all 369 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,560 right it's really amazing that we were 370 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,200 looking through the wheel of a coffee 371 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,800 grinder and we thought we saw a person 372 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,800 I mean he's so perfect spot on there's 373 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,760 no question in my mind that that wheel 374 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,920 is what we're seeing on the wall this is 375 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:01,480 case solved for the operation on the 376 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:07,000 wall just because we saw this case it 377 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,800 doesn't mean the bird cage theater isn't 378 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,640 haunted there's been hundreds of 379 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,560 accounts of paranormal activity here in 380 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,520 the bird cage theater we're gonna stay 381 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,480 into a night investigation 382 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,800 when each and I will start with a sweep 383 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,640 okay pretty much through the whole 384 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,200 theater I've got emf meter and I'll 385 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:29,840 snap off a couple stills as we go along 386 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,960 we have got a camera in the poker room 387 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,680 we have an IR cam in the stairwell 388 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,800 okay and then we have another camera 389 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,560 backstage and then we have another 390 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,200 camera where the audience would be in 391 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,640 the bird cage theater you placed one of 392 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,120 the digital auto recorders in Sadie 393 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:48,600 Joe's room right yes it's right on the 394 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:49,680 edge of her bed and it's already 395 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,640 recording because I know people have 396 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,160 taken photographs in here and they've 397 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,040 got reflections or something in the 398 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,880 mirror I've seen photos with her face 399 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,480 appearing yes everyone gets a walking 400 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,040 thank you let's hit record let's go 401 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,080 green okay let's go 402 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:20,680 walk around doing emf sweep we're in 403 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,440 the at bane hall 404 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,960 camera recording the flier we've got 405 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:31,880 our audio and emf meter running 406 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,640 now we want to go around the perimeter 407 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,880 here 408 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,040 be careful down those stairs you guys 409 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,240 you want you to do some inside of Sadie's 410 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,960 room okay 411 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,680 hey Ben if Lanisha is taking photos of 412 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,320 Sadie's room on the 11th photo or after 413 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,560 that is when people get something 414 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:10,360 eight nine ten eleven 415 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,080 this clip was shot in 2008 in Long 416 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,320 Beach California carnell Thomas a 417 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,200 professional videographer was filming a 418 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,920 wedding when he captured a series of 419 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,720 strange lights hovering over the water 420 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,560 Thomas is convinced his footage depicts 421 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,920 a rare daytime UFO sighting so is it 422 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:33,560 fact or faked the answer coming up 423 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:38,440 a videographer in Long Beach California 424 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,240 caught these mysterious lights hovering 425 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,240 over the water so are these UFOs fact 426 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,120 or faked faked the video was shot 427 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:48,440 through glass the UFOs we're seeing are 428 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,480 reflections from a ring of lights like a 429 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,560 chandelier right behind the camera 430 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:59,560 this one is taking photos of Sadie's room 431 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,040 on the 11th photo or after that is when 432 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,560 people get something 433 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:11,920 seven eight nine ten eleven 434 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,000 I didn't see anything in the monitor 435 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,720 did you hear that no yeah 436 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,200 it sounded like someone walking 437 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,200 Did you hear that though? 438 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,200 Yeah. 439 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:24,200 It sounded like someone walking. 440 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,200 Did they go up the stairs? 441 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,200 Hello? 442 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,200 Is there somebody here? 443 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,200 Whoa, whoa, whoa, stop, stop, stop. 444 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,200 Stop, stop, stop. 445 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,200 Did you hear that? 446 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,200 No, what did you hear? 447 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,200 Like almost right down the stairs as I moved and I stopped. 448 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,200 Oh my god! 449 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,200 Did you guys anywhere near Sadie's room? 450 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:15,200 We're above the stairs. We thought we heard some floors, floorboards creaking. 451 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:23,200 Um, if something happened to the camera in her room, it's been, the light has been moved off of it or something. 452 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,200 It's a lot darker than it was a few seconds ago. 453 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,200 Let's find out what happened to that light. 454 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,200 Look at it. Is this our light? 455 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,200 Oh wow. Did you see it? 456 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,200 Yeah, she had to check on that camera. 457 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,200 It's completely off. 458 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,200 It almost looks like, look, you can see it looks like it was ripped apart. Do you see that? 459 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,200 Devon, we're sitting here right in front of the light. Where did you place that? 460 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,200 Was it on the outside of the door or the inside? Where was it? 461 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:00,200 It was placed securely by me personally on the inside of the door so she could be in her room. 462 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,200 Are you serious? 463 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:10,200 Confirming Devon, this was on the inside of the door, correct? Was there one outside in the hallway? 464 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,200 No. 465 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,200 It's completely outside of the room. 466 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:23,200 Devon, we're starting an EVP session. Sadie, Joe, we're standing outside of your room. 467 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:29,200 If you care to make any noise to move anything, feel free to do so. 468 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,200 Is there anybody with us? 469 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,200 You hear that? 470 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:47,200 You guys remember we went to Tombstone, Arizona to look at some footage that came from the Birdcage Theater. 471 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:54,200 We decided to see if shining light through something like a bottle could create the image on the wall. 472 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,200 But that didn't give us the result we were looking for. 473 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,200 So we decided to see if it could actually be hoax. 474 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:06,200 Maybe somebody had taken some glow-in-the-dark paint that could only be seen by UV light. 475 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:13,200 So we painted that up there on the wall, passed the light across it, but it really just was not distinct enough. 476 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:20,200 So while we were working out the details on this, this is when Devon stumbled upon the coffee grinder that was sitting in front of the wall. 477 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,200 Coffee grinder? 478 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,200 Yep, check this out. 479 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,200 Wow. 480 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,200 Look at the side by side. 481 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,200 Wow! 482 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,200 Now that is exact. 483 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,200 Right? 484 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,200 Yes. 485 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,200 So it wasn't fake, just confused. 486 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,200 Paridole effect is gone once you know what it is. 487 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,200 Right. 488 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:49,200 Even though we felt that we solved what was going on in the video, with so many reports of paranormal activity in the Birdcage Theater, we thought that a night investigation was mandatory. 489 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,200 Of course. 490 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:57,200 So you guys, we had cameras all over this museum, especially in Sadie Jo's room, who was a high-priced lady of the night. 491 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,200 We put a full-spectrum cam and an audio recorder in her room. 492 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,200 I'm upstairs monitoring base cam. 493 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:08,200 And then I noticed that the full-spectrum cam monitor went dark, right in Sadie Jo's room. 494 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,200 So I walkie-ben in Lanisha and I let them know. 495 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:18,200 Now we go downstairs, we get to Sadie Jo's room, the light was outside in the hallway. 496 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,200 Now keep in mind, the door is shut. 497 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,200 We didn't know how it could have gotten there. 498 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,200 Wow. 499 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,200 And then we started doing EVP sessions. 500 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,200 Then I asked, is there anybody here right now? 501 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,200 And we got something really interesting. 502 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,200 Wait till you hear what was captured on that recorder. 503 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,200 Listen to this. 504 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,200 Are you still here? 505 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,200 Oh, whoa! 506 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,200 I heard, we were. 507 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,200 That's what it sounded like to me. 508 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,200 That's creepy. 509 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,200 Oh, man. 510 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,200 That really is creepy. 511 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,200 Honestly, when that happened, I got goosebumps. 512 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,200 So guys, the Birdcage Theater Ghost, fact or faked? 513 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:03,200 I think we can say with confidence that the image in the video was misidentified. 514 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,200 Misidentified ghost, paranormal activity, fact. 515 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,200 Agreed. 516 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,200 You guys got a slam dunk and debunking the original video. 517 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,200 Nice job. 518 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,200 So I want to hear what happened to you guys. 519 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:29,200 Well, as you know, we stayed here in Los Angeles to investigate the case of a UFO that was seen over the 134 freeway. 520 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,200 Coming up on Fact or Faked Paranormal Files. 521 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,200 Welcome to the Fact or Faked Highway. 522 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,200 Move beam, Austin. 523 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,200 Lift off. 524 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,200 Here we go. 525 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,200 Begin motion. 526 00:25:48,200 --> 00:26:05,200 We're in Los Angeles to investigate a really interesting UFO video that was shot right here on the westbound 134 freeway. 527 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:11,200 In October 2006, Russell McKenzie and three friends were returning home from Las Vegas, 528 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,200 where they noticed a glowing disk covering over the hilltops, right over there. 529 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:21,200 Luckily, he had the video camera that he'd taken to Vegas in the back seats, 530 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,200 so Russell grabs the camera and starts filming the strange light. 531 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:31,200 To his surprise, this glowing disk starts moving across the horizon above the freeway, 532 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,200 and then all of a sudden it zips off to the right and completely disappears. 533 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,200 Let's go meet Russell McKenzie. 534 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,200 Let's see if we can learn something about the object he filmed that night. 535 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,200 Russell, hey, how you doing? Hi, I'm Bill. 536 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,200 Hi, nice to meet you. 537 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,200 Hi, nice to meet you. 538 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,200 This is Jiel, and this is Austin. 539 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,200 So, Russell, tell us in your words what you saw that night. 540 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,200 We were coming down back from Vegas on the 134. 541 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,200 Right around that 134 sign down there, I see a white light over by the Griffith Park, 542 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:10,200 you know, the radio towers, and I thought it was kind of weird, so I grabbed my camera and shot it, 543 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,200 and it went boom, bang, boom, and took off. 544 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,200 I knew it wasn't a shooting star, I knew it wasn't a regular airplane or anything like that. 545 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,200 Do you think that what you saw that night may have been of extraterrestrial origin? 546 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,200 I'm not gonna shut it out, you know. 547 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,200 Can you say that you were not involved in hoaxing this in any way? 548 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,200 I can definitely say that. 549 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,200 You can definitely say that? 550 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,200 And I'll be willing to do a light detector test, you know. 551 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,200 Is that the camera that you actually used to film it? 552 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,200 Yes, it is. 553 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,200 Is it possible we can borrow this camera that we'd like to do our own test? 554 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,200 Knock yourself out? 555 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,200 Okay. 556 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,200 Thank you Russell. 557 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,200 Thanks Russell. 558 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,200 We have a work cut out for us. 559 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,200 I mean the 134 is one of the busiest freeways in California. 560 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,200 How are we gonna replicate this? 561 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,200 That's true, look down there, there's so many cars, there's no way we can do our experiments down there. 562 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,200 Why don't we just build our own freeway? 563 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,200 Guys, I have a location in California City, friend of mine up there said we could use a testing site. 564 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,200 It's definitely safe, I think it'd be perfect to run our experiments. 565 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,200 As long as we have enough space, we'll make it happen guys. 566 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,200 Okay. 567 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,200 Ready? 568 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,200 Yeah, let's do it. 569 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,200 Alright, let's get to work. 570 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:18,200 Alright guys, here we are at California City Airport. 571 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,200 What do you guys think of this as a testing site location? 572 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,200 This is great, we certainly have enough runway to turn into a freeway. 573 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,200 Check it out you guys, I got everything we need right here. 574 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:33,200 We can build power lines, we can build lights, we can build our own freeway sign, I got a crane that can lift it up. 575 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:39,200 And then once we get everything in place, we can drive our test course, we'll film along the whole way and see what kind of results we get. 576 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,200 First things first, we've got to establish our position for the sign to start with. 577 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,200 So let's go take a look at this freeway and start measuring some distances out. 578 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:59,200 Now if you look at Russell's video, it took him seven seconds from the beginning of the clip to pass under the sign and then into the five seconds before the object then zipped across the screen. 579 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,200 Right. 580 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,200 He was traveling about 50 miles an hour. 581 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:12,200 That would make it 512 feet before he reaches the sign, then another 360 feet before the end of the clip. 582 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,200 Right. 583 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:21,200 So how about you get the SUV, I'll use a range finder, I'll let you know when you're at that start point and when you're at the end point based on our sign position. 584 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,200 Right there where you are Austin. 585 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:33,200 Alright guys, end point is secure and our route is officially mapped out. 586 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,200 Austin, why don't you come on back and let's build this freeway. 587 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,200 So we've got all the parts that we need here to build a sign. 588 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,200 We're building ours out of 2x4s in plywood. 589 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:53,200 And then once that's all built, we'll actually secure it down to aluminum truss with screws and then mount it to the forks of the crane where it's about 20 feet, which is standard height for your freeway sign. 590 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,200 Let's get to work. 591 00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:04,200 Alright guys, I think we've got enough wood, I'm going to start setting the lights up. 592 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,200 Okay, good. 593 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,200 Yep, we're good here. 594 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:15,200 Once I get this lamp hooked up to the speed rail, I'm going to raise it to about 20 feet, which is the same height as your average freeway light. 595 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,200 It's going to look exactly like the original video. 596 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:25,200 There's part of the course, we're building our sign and once it gets dark, we'll be ready to go. 597 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,200 Go a little higher Austin. 598 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,200 Perfect. 599 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,200 Come on, take a look. 600 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,200 What do you think, huh? 601 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:50,200 Austin, we've got our very own LA freeway and you know what the best part is? 602 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,200 What? 603 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,200 We've got no traffic. 604 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,200 That's right. 605 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,200 That looks great. 606 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,200 Here's how it works. 607 00:30:55,200 --> 00:31:00,200 We've got our sign built, we've got the lights turned on, so let's get in the vehicle and let's get in position. 608 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,200 Let's see how this works. 609 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,200 Alright. 610 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,200 Alright. 611 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:09,200 A popular online theory is that the UFO that we're seeing in Russell's video is simply a laser pointer shining off the windshield. 612 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,200 Well, I like this laser idea. 613 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:16,200 I mean, what if there was a prankster that was out along the highway and it was just pointing the laser out at the car? 614 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,200 That makes sense, because think about it. 615 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:22,200 When we were at the location where the video was actually shot, there were a bunch of hills, apartment complexes. 616 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:29,200 I say to test this theory, I just go outside, use a lift, go up to the right up to the left, and then I go down to the right. 617 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:36,200 I say to test this theory, I just go outside, use a lift, go up to the right elevation, and you guys can guide me where to actually point the laser. 618 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,200 Let's get you in an elevated position past the sign. 619 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:45,200 That way as we drive toward you, the sign will block your laser light and then reappear just like we're seeing in the original video. 620 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,200 But we'll have to use a blue laser. 621 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:54,200 You know they don't make white ones, but the blue laser should come off as white in my viewfinder, and it should match the object in the original footage. 622 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,200 Alright, you guys, when I get there, tell me how high to be and where to point the laser. 623 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,200 Good luck. 624 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:04,200 So I just grabbed our high powered laser, and I'm about to take myself 40 feet up into the air in this lift. 625 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:09,200 Once I'm there, I'm going to have Gail and Bill actually guide me to a fixed location for our starting point, or to shine the laser. 626 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,200 I'm then going to wait for their countdown. 627 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:16,200 Once that happens, I'm going to try to recreate the same flight path as you can see from the object in the original footage. 628 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,200 Let's see how it looks. 629 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,200 Guys, I am in position. Laser is hot. Waiting for your countdown. 630 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,200 And five. We're going to put on our goggles. 631 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:31,200 Austin, go ahead and flash your laser in our direction for a test. 632 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,200 Bill, I see the laser. I'm all framed up and ready to go. 633 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,200 We're getting ready to start right now. You ready? 634 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,200 I'm ready to go. 635 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,200 Here we go. 636 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,200 We're approaching the sign, Austin. Got a frame? 637 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,200 Yeah, I got it framed. 638 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,200 Here we go. Five, four, three, two, one. 639 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,200 Move beam, Austin. 640 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,200 Guys, I am in position. Laser is hot. Waiting for your countdown. 641 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:17,200 Here we go. Five, four, three, two, one. Move beam, Austin. 642 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,200 Wow. That was a really bright flash of light. 643 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,200 Got it? Yeah. 644 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,200 Austin for team. How'd that look, guys? 645 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,200 Why don't you come down from the bucket and let's do a side by side? 646 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,200 Copy that. I'll see you guys in a sec. 647 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:39,200 Now, the first thing I notice is that our laser point in the beginning, it's very small. 648 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,200 It's a lot smaller than the UFO in the original footage. 649 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:48,200 And then the second most obvious thing is that once we pass under the sign and you move it across, look at that. 650 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,200 You can see that there's a beam going across. 651 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,200 You know what it is? It's like a flare in the windshield. 652 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,200 Exactly. It's like the windshield is refracting the laser. 653 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,200 You don't have that at all in the original video. 654 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,200 I think we've made a good case for ruling out the laser theory. 655 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,200 Absolutely. 656 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,200 We need to scale up our experiment. 657 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,200 You know what I noticed when we were interviewing Russell? 658 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,200 What? 659 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:13,200 When we were looking over the 134 freeway, I saw power lines draped across. 660 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:19,200 What if it's just like the lights from the traffic just creating a glint across the power cables? 661 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,200 These power lines have a reflective nature. 662 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,200 It's possible that it would catch the light. 663 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:30,200 I mean, if we put up our own power line and put a high powered beam to it, 664 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:37,200 it's possible that the reflective line would actually catch it and then create something that looks like the UFO in the video. 665 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,200 Let's go get the power line set up. 666 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,200 Okay. Sounds great. 667 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,200 We just ran our laser test and that obviously wasn't the answer. 668 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,200 So now we're going to scale things up a bit. 669 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,200 We're going to take a hundred feet of galvanized heavy gauge steel cable, 670 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,200 attach it to our two lifts and raise it up to create our own power line. 671 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:57,200 We're going to use a high powered spotlight to actually act as headlights of oncoming traffic. 672 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:02,200 We're going to see if the reflection off that cable could be the answer for what the object we're seeing in the video is. 673 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,200 Right there. 674 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,200 Guys, this looks great. 675 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,200 It's perfect. 676 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,200 Come check it out. 677 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,200 Let's see. 678 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,200 Yeah. 679 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,200 You know what? 680 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,200 We got a power line. 681 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:17,200 Between the power line, the street lights and the freeway sign, it looks pretty much like the 134. 682 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,200 I'd say welcome to the factory faked highway. 683 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,200 Yeah, you go. 684 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,200 You got the spotlight? 685 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,200 I do. 686 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,200 I'm going to stand at a 45 degree angle. 687 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:29,200 I'm going to hit the cable with the spotlight, zoom it across the side, see if we can represent the same move in the video. 688 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,200 All right, Jai-El. 689 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,200 Let's get in the car and let's start this test. 690 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,200 Perfect. 691 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,200 I'll get in position. 692 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,200 I'm framed up and ready to go. 693 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,200 Austin, Jai-El is ready. 694 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,200 Are you ready with the spotlight? 695 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,200 Bill, I am in position standing by, waiting for your cue. 696 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,200 Beginning this test run right now. 697 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,200 Reporting. 698 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:57,200 Austin, get ready on five, four, three, two, one. 699 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,200 Hit that wire, Austin. 700 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,200 There it is. 701 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,200 I saw it. 702 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,200 Okay. 703 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,200 Austin, we're pulling up to do a side-by-side comparison. 704 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,200 Why don't you join us on the side of the road? 705 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,200 Copy that. 706 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,200 What do you look like on the camera? 707 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,200 Let me show you. 708 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,200 So we're driving by, we're going toward the sign. 709 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,200 Just pass it. 710 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,200 There's the line. 711 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,200 See, it already looks like it's a sign. 712 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,200 Look at that. 713 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,200 See how it streaks across? 714 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,200 That actually looked pretty good. 715 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,200 Notice the shape? 716 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,200 Yeah. 717 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,200 That was now elongated as opposed to being a point of light like from a laser. 718 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,200 It was. 719 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,200 You're absolutely right about that, but the problem is it's way more elongated. 720 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,200 It's huge compared to this pin point that we see in the original footage. 721 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,200 Even though it made the shape better, movement was a lot better. 722 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,200 When it illuminated the wire, I can see the wire. 723 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,200 I think we're going to have to explore other options. 724 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,200 All right, well, we're getting warm. 725 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,200 Let's get to work. 726 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,200 All right. 727 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,200 Up until now, we've been using things that we've been manipulating, 728 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,200 but I think we're going to have to experiment with something that can move under its own power. 729 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:16,200 Guys, anyone who spent time in Los Angeles knows that police and news helicopters are a constant presence in the sky. 730 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:22,200 I think it's very plausible that this UFO in the video could be a helicopter with a search light attached to it. 731 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:30,200 I can certainly see how the object in the original video could be mistaken for a helicopter navigating at night. 732 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,200 I mean, helicopters certainly can hover and then suddenly accelerate. 733 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,200 I've got an R-44 helicopter. 734 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,200 I'm going to jump in the cockpit with the pilot. 735 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,200 We'll stay in contact via walkie that way we can make any immediate adjustments to the flight path that are needed. 736 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,200 Perfect. 737 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:50,200 And then once we signal you, you can tell the pilot to shoot across the horizon the way that the UFO does. 738 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,200 So you'll work from the sky, you operate the camera, I'll navigate the test course. 739 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,200 Let's see how this looks. 740 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,200 All right. 741 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,200 Be safe. 742 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,200 I know I will. 743 00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,200 Okay. 744 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:05,200 So once the helicopter is set up, we're going to see if a copter with a mounted search light can replicate the UFO that we see in the original video. 745 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,200 All of you clear for takeoff. 746 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,200 Copy that. 747 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,200 Lift off. 748 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,200 There they go. 749 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,200 Guys, we are airborne. 750 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,200 I repeat, we have lift off. 751 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,200 The helicopter is in the air. 752 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,200 Austin, let us know when you're in position. 753 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,200 Copy that. 754 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,200 We're heading to our starting point now. 755 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,200 I've got visual of them on the camera. 756 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,200 I'm in a Robinson R-44 helicopter with the spotlight attached to the bottom of it. 757 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:56,200 We're about to find out when we take this flight trajectory, if this is the possible explanation for the object we're seeing in the video. 758 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,200 Austin, we're moving into place. 759 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,200 Are you ready? 760 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,200 Copy that, guys. 761 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,200 We are in position and waiting for your cue. 762 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,200 Approaching the sign. 763 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,200 I'll count down as soon as we hit it. 764 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,200 Stand by. 765 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,200 There it goes. 766 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,200 Here we go. 767 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,200 On five. 768 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,200 Four. 769 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,200 Three. 770 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,200 Two. 771 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,200 One. 772 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,200 Begin motion. 773 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:48,200 We're going to see if a copter with a mounted search light can replicate the UFO that we see in the original video. 774 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,200 Three. 775 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,200 Two. 776 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,200 One. 777 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,200 Begin motion. 778 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,200 So the chopper held a stationary position. 779 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:09,200 Once Bill gave us the countdown, the chopper tried to recreate the exact same flight path and speed as the object in the original video. 780 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,200 Check out how it turned out. 781 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,200 Alright. 782 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,200 Wow. 783 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,200 There you go. 784 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,200 They're going pretty fast. 785 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:24,200 What this did prove is that it's very possible that what we're seeing in Russell's video is in fact a helicopter. 786 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:30,200 But our chopper test does not recreate the sudden acceleration that you see at the end of Russell's video. 787 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:38,200 But when we sped up the end of our video with some editing after effects, we got some pretty interesting results. 788 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,200 Wow. 789 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,200 That's an exact match, guys. 790 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,200 It looks great. 791 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,200 It really is. 792 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,200 So it got us thinking. 793 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,200 Maybe in the interview, Russell wasn't revealing everything that he knew. 794 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,200 So we applied LVA to the interview recording. 795 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,200 Most of Russell's answers showed no deception whatsoever. 796 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,200 This is what he said after we asked him what happened that night. 797 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,200 I see a white light over by the Griffith Park, you know, the radio towers. 798 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,200 So I grabbed my camera and shot it. 799 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,200 And it went boom, bang, boom and took off. 800 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,200 No deception whatsoever. 801 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,200 Based on that, I think it's pretty safe to say that Russell did see something in the sky that night. 802 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:25,200 So we did ask Russell, was there any hoaxing at all involved with his video? 803 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,200 We got a disresponse. 804 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,200 Can you say that you were not involved in hoaxing this in any way? 805 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,200 I can definitely say that. 806 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,200 I'd be willing to do a light detector test, you know. 807 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,200 Deception indicated. 808 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,200 So the LVA indicates deception. 809 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,200 And based on our experiments, more than likely the object we're seeing in the original video 810 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,200 is just a helicopter sped up to give a dramatic exit. 811 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,200 But, layered voice analysis will indicate deception if it detects stress. 812 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:57,200 So it's possible that Russell was simply being stressed by the question. 813 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:02,200 If he did not ramp up the end of this video, we have a genuine UFO here. 814 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:07,200 Did you address the fact that you couldn't see either way if it was speeding up or any of the cars? 815 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,200 He did kind of pan up at the end when he was focusing on the object. 816 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,200 So then you're losing sight of the speed of the cars. 817 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,200 So the freeway flyer guys, factor faked. 818 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,200 Considering that there were several witnesses that night that saw this UFO, 819 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,200 I think there was definitely something up in the sky. 820 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:27,200 The object in the video is certainly fact, but the video could have been faked. 821 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,200 My personal opinion, you guys, I'm going to go with faked on this one. 822 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,200 I think it was doctored. 823 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,200 I'm with Devin. 824 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,200 I totally think it's faked. 825 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,200 I think there was a real object in the sky, but all in all the video, fake. 826 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:42,200 The layered voice analysis is a great tool and taken into account of everything else, 827 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,200 I think it is indicating he's not being completely truthful here. 828 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:50,200 I'm thinking he may have done something with the video after, but either way, he did an excellent job.